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	<title>Comments on: Defending Everlasting Torment</title>
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	<description>Just because it&#039;s &#34;orthodox&#34; doesn&#039;t mean it&#039;s true</description>
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		<title>By: Claudia</title>
		<link>http://www.christianheretic.com/2007/07/defending-everlasting-torment.html/comment-page-1#comment-206</link>
		<dc:creator>Claudia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Oct 2010 04:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>one thing I can never quite grasp, is how the heretical JWs ignore the story of the rich man and Lazarus, saying he was tormented in &quot;this flame&quot; doesn&#039;t sound like the &quot;sheol&quot; they always hide behind. the rich man wanted OUT of that place of burning flames.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>one thing I can never quite grasp, is how the heretical JWs ignore the story of the rich man and Lazarus, saying he was tormented in &#8220;this flame&#8221; doesn&#8217;t sound like the &#8220;sheol&#8221; they always hide behind. the rich man wanted OUT of that place of burning flames.</p>
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		<title>By: Let&#8217;s See What You&#8217;ve Got &#124; The Christian Heretic</title>
		<link>http://www.christianheretic.com/2007/07/defending-everlasting-torment.html/comment-page-1#comment-196</link>
		<dc:creator>Let&#8217;s See What You&#8217;ve Got &#124; The Christian Heretic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Oct 2010 18:45:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] are probably made the clearest when it comes to the topic of hell. The fact that interpreting the 10 passages generally used to defend Everlasting Torment in hell as an actual defense of the doctrine means [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Cassie Cake</title>
		<link>http://www.christianheretic.com/2007/07/defending-everlasting-torment.html/comment-page-1#comment-131</link>
		<dc:creator>Cassie Cake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Sep 2010 20:50:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They said on the news that an American burned pages from a Qu&#039;ran at the WTC in New York on 9/11. Such an idiot. Rather than making a pubic declaration in favor of something constructive, he instead risks creating more vitriol and bitterness between the Islamic World and America. What a freak.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They said on the news that an American burned pages from a Qu&#8217;ran at the WTC in New York on 9/11. Such an idiot. Rather than making a pubic declaration in favor of something constructive, he instead risks creating more vitriol and bitterness between the Islamic World and America. What a freak.</p>
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		<title>By: Nathanael</title>
		<link>http://www.christianheretic.com/2007/07/defending-everlasting-torment.html/comment-page-1#comment-21</link>
		<dc:creator>Nathanael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 02:25:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doug, your &quot;bible skills&quot; are about as meaningless and agenda-driven as can be. &quot;The Lake of Fire in Rev. is symbolic fire&quot;  and you have arrived at this conclusion by what thinking process?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;Christians will have to pass through it also&quot;  What!?  Where do you get these baseless, retarded ideas?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Here&#039;s some reading for you:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Matthew: 8:12, 13:42,50, 22:13, 24:51, 25:30.  Luke: 13:28&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Shelly, what you just said is dangerously stupid, and not at all Biblical.  God said, under NO UNCERTAIN TERMS that He will destroy the wicked.  just go look up &quot;wicked&quot; in the Bible if you doubt God&#039;s wrath and judgement against the wicked.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is ridiculous, Heretic (my, waht a fitting name).  Who are you to publish some dreck like this, under facade of an honest Bible study?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Isaiah 66:22-24:&lt;br /&gt; &quot;As the new heavens and the new earth that I make will endure before me,&quot; declares the LORD, &quot;so will your name and descendants endure.  From one New Moon to another and from one Sabbath to another, all mankind will come and bow down before me,&quot; says the LORD. &quot;And they will go out and look upon the dead bodies of those who rebelled against me; their worm will not die, nor will their fire be quenched, and they will be loathsome to all mankind.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sounds like Hell to me.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And as for &quot;non believers in Christ&quot; NOT going to Hell,...well, I&#039;m sure that&#039;s what Satan wants you to believe, and he is succeeding, but here is truth, so that you are without excuse in believing your lies:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Rev. 21:8  &quot;But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars—their place will be in the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Didn&#039;t that say &quot;the unbelieving&quot;?  Ooops.  There goes your &quot;argument&quot; *fLuSh!*.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And if any of you on here believe that you were saved by Jesus&#039; sacrifice,....then please tell me what exactly He saved you FROM?  Or do you think that He &quot;owed it to you&quot; to die a bloody, painful death to rescue you from YOUR sins?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doug, your &quot;bible skills&quot; are about as meaningless and agenda-driven as can be. &quot;The Lake of Fire in Rev. is symbolic fire&quot;  and you have arrived at this conclusion by what thinking process?</p>
<p>&quot;Christians will have to pass through it also&quot;  What!?  Where do you get these baseless, retarded ideas?</p>
<p>Here&#39;s some reading for you:</p>
<p>Matthew: 8:12, 13:42,50, 22:13, 24:51, 25:30.  Luke: 13:28</p>
<p>Shelly, what you just said is dangerously stupid, and not at all Biblical.  God said, under NO UNCERTAIN TERMS that He will destroy the wicked.  just go look up &quot;wicked&quot; in the Bible if you doubt God&#39;s wrath and judgement against the wicked.</p>
<p>This is ridiculous, Heretic (my, waht a fitting name).  Who are you to publish some dreck like this, under facade of an honest Bible study?</p>
<p>Isaiah 66:22-24:<br /> &quot;As the new heavens and the new earth that I make will endure before me,&quot; declares the LORD, &quot;so will your name and descendants endure.  From one New Moon to another and from one Sabbath to another, all mankind will come and bow down before me,&quot; says the LORD. &quot;And they will go out and look upon the dead bodies of those who rebelled against me; their worm will not die, nor will their fire be quenched, and they will be loathsome to all mankind.&quot;</p>
<p>Sounds like Hell to me.</p>
<p>And as for &quot;non believers in Christ&quot; NOT going to Hell,&#8230;well, I&#39;m sure that&#39;s what Satan wants you to believe, and he is succeeding, but here is truth, so that you are without excuse in believing your lies:</p>
<p>Rev. 21:8  &quot;But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars—their place will be in the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death.&quot;</p>
<p>Didn&#39;t that say &quot;the unbelieving&quot;?  Ooops.  There goes your &quot;argument&quot; *fLuSh!*.</p>
<p>And if any of you on here believe that you were saved by Jesus&#39; sacrifice,&#8230;.then please tell me what exactly He saved you FROM?  Or do you think that He &quot;owed it to you&quot; to die a bloody, painful death to rescue you from YOUR sins?</p>
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		<title>By: Nathanael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nathanael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 02:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doug, your &quot;bible skills&quot; are about as meaningless and agenda-driven as can be. &quot;The Lake of Fire in Rev. is symbolic fire&quot;  and you have arrived at this conclusion by what thinking process?&quot;Christians will have to pass through it also&quot;  What!?  Where do you get these baseless, retarded ideas?Here&#039;s some reading for you:Matthew: 8:12, 13:42,50, 22:13, 24:51, 25:30.  Luke: 13:28Shelly, what you just said is dangerously stupid, and not at all Biblical.  God said, under NO UNCERTAIN TERMS that He will destroy the wicked.  just go look up &quot;wicked&quot; in the Bible if you doubt God&#039;s wrath and judgement against the wicked.This is ridiculous, Heretic (my, waht a fitting name).  Who are you to publish some dreck like this, under facade of an honest Bible study?Isaiah 66:22-24: &quot;As the new heavens and the new earth that I make will endure before me,&quot; declares the LORD, &quot;so will your name and descendants endure.  From one New Moon to another and from one Sabbath to another, all mankind will come and bow down before me,&quot; says the LORD. &quot;And they will go out and look upon the dead bodies of those who rebelled against me; their worm will not die, nor will their fire be quenched, and they will be loathsome to all mankind.&quot;Sounds like Hell to me.And as for &quot;non believers in Christ&quot; NOT going to Hell,...well, I&#039;m sure that&#039;s what Satan wants you to believe, and he is succeeding, but here is truth, so that you are without excuse in believing your lies:Rev. 21:8  &quot;But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars—their place will be in the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death.&quot;Didn&#039;t that say &quot;the unbelieving&quot;?  Ooops.  There goes your &quot;argument&quot; *fLuSh!*.And if any of you on here believe that you were saved by Jesus&#039; sacrifice,....then please tell me what exactly He saved you FROM?  Or do you think that He &quot;owed it to you&quot; to die a bloody, painful death to rescue you from YOUR sins?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doug, your &quot;bible skills&quot; are about as meaningless and agenda-driven as can be. &quot;The Lake of Fire in Rev. is symbolic fire&quot;  and you have arrived at this conclusion by what thinking process?&quot;Christians will have to pass through it also&quot;  What!?  Where do you get these baseless, retarded ideas?Here&#039;s some reading for you:Matthew: 8:12, 13:42,50, 22:13, 24:51, 25:30.  Luke: 13:28Shelly, what you just said is dangerously stupid, and not at all Biblical.  God said, under NO UNCERTAIN TERMS that He will destroy the wicked.  just go look up &quot;wicked&quot; in the Bible if you doubt God&#039;s wrath and judgement against the wicked.This is ridiculous, Heretic (my, waht a fitting name).  Who are you to publish some dreck like this, under facade of an honest Bible study?Isaiah 66:22-24: &quot;As the new heavens and the new earth that I make will endure before me,&quot; declares the LORD, &quot;so will your name and descendants endure.  From one New Moon to another and from one Sabbath to another, all mankind will come and bow down before me,&quot; says the LORD. &quot;And they will go out and look upon the dead bodies of those who rebelled against me; their worm will not die, nor will their fire be quenched, and they will be loathsome to all mankind.&quot;Sounds like Hell to me.And as for &quot;non believers in Christ&quot; NOT going to Hell,&#8230;well, I&#039;m sure that&#039;s what Satan wants you to believe, and he is succeeding, but here is truth, so that you are without excuse in believing your lies:Rev. 21:8  &quot;But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars—their place will be in the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death.&quot;Didn&#039;t that say &quot;the unbelieving&quot;?  Ooops.  There goes your &quot;argument&quot; *fLuSh!*.And if any of you on here believe that you were saved by Jesus&#039; sacrifice,&#8230;.then please tell me what exactly He saved you FROM?  Or do you think that He &quot;owed it to you&quot; to die a bloody, painful death to rescue you from YOUR sins?</p>
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